Divorce beheading death in childbirth exile..The women who married henry viii are best known for the way their lives ended. Yet these 6 queens also possessed seductive guile & extraordinary political skill in the face of dangerous court intrigues.
Divorce beheading death in childbirth exile..The women who married henry viii are best known for the way their lives ended. Yet these 6 queens also possessed seductive guile & extraordinary political skill in the face of dangerous court intrigues.
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@cupidxxrawr I can agree with the fact that Anne was the one that pushed Henry to make himself head of the Church of England and that she shaped him into what he later became. However, Anne is by no means solely responsible for Henry leaving Katherine. Even if she wasn’t there, Henry would have still wanted the divorce. He was looking for any way to get out of leaving his throne to a female heir out of risk of civil war.
@madeleineakaino to show how she maliciously gloated over her favour, I think.
the whole affair was profoundly disgusting. The King had no Biblical warrant for his adulterous liason : his appeal to Leviticus 20:21 is specious, having wrenched that verse out of context
I find the comments about Ann Boleyn being a whore etc and breaking up a marriage hilarious….as if we were watching an episode of Real Housewives or some soap opera.This is historical machination for power at the highest level not an episode in Kim Kardashian’s life.
I wonder if all these people are as concerned with the trice married Newt (he’s 1/2 way to Henry in that department )
“…left her dangerously depended on a SINGLE THING, Henry’s love and support..” -dude, thats 2 things. lol
It is ridiculous to blame Anne for Henry’s position. Further, it shows a total lack of understanding for both the historical context and the role of women at the time. As is shown in any factual viewing of his life Henry VIII did what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it and once he had decided on a course of action nothing was going to sway him. When he didn’t get his way he found ways around other alliances and agreements he had made. His first marriage was no different.
for god’s sake why does anne boleyn’s actress have that weird funny smile sticked on her face all the time?
@cupidxxrawr Also I must correct this–Henry did NOT leave the Catholic Church. This is a common misconception. Henry just made himself the head of the church in England–it was about power & to some extent money (the smashing of the monasteries). Even ANNE died a Catholic–she was a reformist & promoted the new learning but she made a final confession & died as a Catholic. Later Cath. Parr was a secret Protestant & nearly was arrested as a result b/c Henry was very much against Protestantism.
@cupidxxrawr You don’t have to like her–she did some really crappy things, like her behavior of Mary which was reprehensible. But blame her for what she actually did, not what he did. (And if you think Henry made himself the head of church for her, you misunderstand Henry, an absolute monarch. He loved Anne but he knew what he was doing.) Google “the myth of male weakness,” the idea that men are so susceptible to women’s sexuality that they are easily manipulated. A very old, dangerous trope.
@NYCBlonde knew what she was doing. You are taking this way out of proportion. I said that I didn’t have sympathy for her – just like she had no sympathy for Catherine. So yes, your right when you said that it was his choice, but she was the catalyst. without her he never would have gotten the book ‘obedience of a christian man’, he never would have left the catholic church and he wouldn’t have made himself head of the church. so i’m not misogynistic, i’m basing my opinion on fact.
@NYCBlonde So you are saying that a man with a long line of sleeping with women behind his back isn’t proof that she knew what she was doing when he started to become interested in him? She chose to ‘give herself over’ to him as his wife. He had a choice of leaving her alone or to do what she wanted. and he did so. I am not talking about other women or how people use the argument about ‘how men can’t help themselves’- im talking about Anne. It wasn’t sexist to say that she (c)
@cupidxxrawr I attacked your opinion & I will continue to do so. If you are going to post inflammatory, sexist opinions publicly, you will attract this reaction–welcome to debate in the real world. Your claim that Anne “knew how he would react” is the oldest, most offensive kind of misogyny. This garbage has been used to justify rape, spousal abuse etc. which is why it is so profoundly disgusting. The “men can’t help themselves” argument is ridiculous & I will continue to call you out for it.
@NYCBlonde I am taking it like an adult. I am proud to be a woman and normally in a case like Anne Boleyn I would support her- but I have a problem with women who chose to seduce married men who are easily manipulated and crazy – like Henry. I take your reply as an attack. Don’t call me misogynistic, I am not a woman hater. I’m going to stand up for myself when you chose to attack me. You could have easily posted your thoughts without posting it towards me. Grow up.
@cupidxxrawr Oh for God’s sake, grow up. If you’re going to post inflammatory and misogynistic opinions, learn to take the heat, like adults do. I didn’t attack you, I attacked your silly, sexist argument–which you invited by posting it in a public forum. See how that works? If you don’t want to be called out for your opinion, don’t air it. ‘Nuff said.
@NYCBlonde Excuse me? I don’t see how MY post has anything to do with you. Great thing about history is that everyone can have a different view on it. I would appreciate if you would remember that before being disrespectful and rude to people with opinions.
@cupidxxrawr @cupidxxrawr He and he alone is responsible for his actions. End of story. Her magic v**** does not compel him. HE and HE ALONE is responsible for his actions.
So sick of women being blamed for men’s shenanigans. Anne looked for herself. Your post is gross and misogynistic.
@cupidxxrawr You seem to be forgetting the faction that was behind her: The Howards had the political acuity to have survived being on the wrong side at Bosworth, backing 2 of Henry’s most turbulent marriages and being recusant Catholics, and they are still on the go today. I think you overestimate the woman and underestimate her party.
@cupidxxrawr – I totally agree with this! Thank you for posting this!
What a whore.
I think he mostly liked her because of the attractive forbidden relationship, like teenagers are today. Ironic!
@PrincessKarrah “people hated Anne because she refused to sleep with anther woman’s husband that sounds F up to me”
Not really. Anne’s ultimatum to the King wasn’t innocent. She would not sleep with him unless he married her, unless he made her Queen. People loved Kathrine as a Queen. When you replace a Queen that’s already loved it’s harder to please the people. Also, by marrying Anne, Henry was excommunicated (& subsequently his people)…not what the people wanted at the time.
@annahrwth242 Well, Anne Boleyn was said to not be beautiful but she knew the wiles to use to ensnare men. Natalie Portman is gorgeous and definitely more so than Anne Boleyn ever was
@cupidxxrawr I’m not a fan of Anne Boleyn either but you have to admire her for her ambition.
@winadyaputri I prefer Natalie Dormer’s portrayal of Anne Boleyn, it was perfect.
@cupidxxrawr Well, I’ve read a lot of books on the matter (history books) and i have also a degree in English. One of the books that clarifies this matter is the one written by David Loades, The six wives of Henry VIII. I’m not saying Anne Boleyn was a saint. King Henry was just a selfish man obsessed with himself and with having a male heir.
@Nhoca79
Can I ask where you learned that? Just curious.